drunken christians and prozac, zanax ECT!

Ephesians 5:1: And do not be drunk with wine, in which is dissipation; but be filled with the Spirit







I think most Christians agree that drunkenness is wrong. a sinful practice that leads to physical harm, destroys lives and families.
some may differ on consumption of alcohol being sinful. some say you should never drink....some say it's OK to drink, but not in excess....others still say that we have the grace to drink, but why do it? why drink in front of nonbelievers? some good discussions to be had...as long as we don't divide.
so we all agree in one degree or another that over consumption of drugs is harmful, YET!!!

there is what i would consider to be an epidemic of Christians taking Psychotropic drugs. my unscientific survey results are 95% of christian (mostly women) are on something.
you can usually tell. My wife is funny, because she will generally ask to verify the obvious.
out of the 10-20 pastors we have met in the last couple years, almost all of them had wives that were on a prescribed mental health drug.

call me crazy (sorry for the pun) but "Houston....we have a problem!"
when you discuss this with these people it is also the same reply, "oh...i agree with you that
this type of thing is over diagnosed, but "OUR" situation is real" they all say it! it's an epidemic!
one pastor i know speaks of it as if it is an awesome testimony
"my wife Mary Lynn was always angry....would fight over the littlest things, would explode with temper, then praise God she was correctly diagnosed and healed with this medicine that she needs to take for the rest of her life" he also confided in me that you can tell within a day if she hadn't taken it. isn't that sad?
really? give me a break! did her anger issues have anything to do with how horrible a husband you are/were? maybe the years of you visiting strip clubs and your verbal abuse did some damage? maybe the Lord is trying to work out things in her life that are now suppressed.
this woman in question....it was obvious in 5 minutes if meeting her that she is medicated.
nice lady, don't get me wrong, but in a drug induced state.

i have heard all the arguments..."your a diabetic and you need your meds..it's the same thing"

really? so if you lost your job and insurance how long would her health decline to the point of hospitalization? give me a break!
what about believers in 3rd world countries? how many of them "need" to be on zanax?
when the red cross or doctors go to these poverty stricken places, do you think they are carrying these type of drugs for emergency/long term health?
God gave man wisdom...He also gave us medicine, of that i am certain. and there are some people who may need to remain on certain drugs the rest of their lives (this is the open door everyone uses!) it must be the exception though (again...everyone on these drugs think they are that exception!) this fact SCREAMS!!! that it is a deception. PLEASE!!! if i am describing you

let the Lord work in your life, seek counsel from a godly brother or sister and ask Him to heal you. i must emphasize here though...DON'T TRY THIS ALONE!!! this is a burden too difficult to handle on your own. only if you are in fellowship with other beleivers or spouce who will come along side you to help should you seek to get off a medication
my wife is a great example of this. without getting into her hurtful past, she had/has issues in her life. when were first met she would have explosions of anger....to the point were she would strike me with closed fists! she had all these "saints" tell her to see a psychiatrist!!! can you believe that? what is wrong with us today? we would place the hurting souls of brothers and sisters in the hands of godless people (yea...i know all about the "christian" psychologists, that subject is for another blog entry!)

anyway... she resisted those people...resisted her doctors and complied with my request that she refrain from taking any of these medications.(again...i am not "anti-med") and God has done what He promised! (Phil 1:6)

is she perfect? no....does she need more healing? yes! she would never have what she has now if she gave in. what she has now is so glorious, so awesome because it is a work of the Holy Spirit in her life. why would a "Christian" want any less?

was it easy? no...is it easy now? well, it is easier now than before and it continues to improve.
what is the outcome?
let's compare
1. with the meds, man gets the glory. man's wisdom has curtailed the problem of a behavioral issue
2. without the meds, God gets the glory! through prayer and counsel and the tenacity involved with crucifying the flesh...God works in the heart of a person. and they are truly changed

i know that this is maybe a little simplistic...maybe it needs to be?

i am just asking you....if you do indeed belong to Him ( i think that this is probably the main problem)
if you have repented and placed your trust in Jesus, then PLEASE!!! instead of convincing yourself that your one of the people who genuinely need this medication ask yourself if your not!
we all need to examine ourselves:
2 Corinthians 13:5: Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

this would be hard to do if you are in a drug induced fog....
please seek council... He can do it in your life if you let Him

during those dark times in my marriage, don't you think i was tempted to just tell my wife,
"please take something!!" i am the one who would have benefited from that! less arguing, more intimacy...but just as Christ is our husband and wants His best for His bride, we husbands need to be the same

testimony time

i was thinking about testimonies today.

imagine the testimony of a martyr...(rev:12:11)

yet, when i hear and consider the testimonies of those who profess Christ they seem to follow a similar pattern or group.

why must people embellish their testimonies?

here is an example....before i was saved i was a criminal. i broke into houses and stole whatever i could carry. this was my life for around 4 years.

i could tell this in 2 ways:

1. i was a career criminal...an expert at disabling alarms and knowing what to steal. people looked up to me and feared me because i was a dark, ominous individual. yes...i had it all, money so much money! girls, parties, drugs, travel....man was i the bomb! then God gotta hold of me!

2. i was a bum who couldn't hold a job for a couple years....i stole things from people when they weren't home. a 2 bit thief that would come into your home when you were gone and steal the ring your dead grandmother gave you...just to pawn it for 10-15 bucks so i could get a case of beer. then i finally got busted and put in jail where i belonged...during that arrest the Lord
showed me the darkness and depravity of my soul.

do you see the difference?

i went to the True Church Conference in Muscle Shoals Alabama last year. my former pastor accompanied me and i witnessed one of the worst examples of this, which is what originally got me to start noticing these things.
we were at a table with Don Currin and his lovely wife. i did not know who Don was at this time, for he is truly a humble man. when he mentioned that he was an evangelist i became excited and wanted to pick this guy's brain for at least an hour. some how my pastor dominated the conversation.... "i had a house this size once, the Lord had me downsize" "i was making so much money, i gave it up for the Lord" "my son was in a coma, because the Lord was calling me to serve Him"
i watched in horror as my new friends got up an left....my buddy had no clue

as if we do God a favor by "choosing" Him instead of the world....
God saves us by showing us our sinfullness, not by hurting or killing our children
and He is not impressed by what we give up. WHO CARES????
if you are giving up your life, facing horrible persecution, or jailed for preaching the gospel
then we can talk.
PLEASE!!!! let's be honest...if you are saved, truly saved, it is because God
took a vile creature and recreated him...period.

1 john 2:19

1 john 2:19 "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us"


I am a musician. i love playing guitar, and have made a "covenant" with the Lord regarding my


use of music. i have quite a bit of material, but am not ashamed to admit that i need and require help.


unfinished tunes, no lyrics....i so desire collaboration with what God has blessed me with.


but i want to collaborate with "like minded" believers. i really don't care much about what church they go to, but there are aspects to God's message i would like to convey and i would hope to find those who are gifted musically, and at the same time agree on the doctrines of Grace.


i have gotten a couple responses and these things concern me now, because i know it is on a much larger scale.


there are "Christians" who speak the same lingo, say amen to the same things, but when you look at their lives, their music /DVD collection, myspace pages, and the books they read you know


they are not the same as one who has really grasped what Christ has done for them.


it cannot be life as usual...IT CAN'T!!!!! i don't know how to speak to those who seem/speak as if their in complete agreement with you, but they aren't. is this self delusion? if you point out to them that a true follower of Christ loves the things Christ loves, and hates the things that Christ hates....what would they do? sure we all stumble and struggle with the things/pleasures of this world....but our lives need to be marked with a growth toward holiness. if you are a christians and think that the "Simpsons" are ok to watch.... or you still crank up those ac/dc cds....think that sex outside marriage is just a small deal... you need to question your walk with Him, for it is those very things that caused Him to die for us. when we snicker over off color or sexual humor.... listen to music that glorifies sex drugs and R&R....we should grieve.


i made an off color comment yesterday about a lesbian i know. i got chuckles and the attention i desired....and could not sleep last night thinking about how awful it must have grieved my Father in heaven. not to mention the testimony i gave. how someone can live in that state continuously without it bothering them is beyond me.


again...they say all the right things, seem to believe the same things, but you can see that there is something wrong and i find this to be a very grievous thing.

new here

hey world!
i am new at this. i am from the southern NH area and have had trouble finding a decent church.
i think i have finally found one...i'll let ya know
i will probably start a log and discuss some of the wildest experiences i have had. i am sure there are many many more....i would love to hear some of them! let me be clear here...my goal is not to cause trouble or division, i think people need to talk and share about the abusive things that have happened to them. my goal is to see restoration in the lives of disillusioned people. you are not alone. the cliques, arrogant pastors, militant homeschoolers, and just plain weird people have caused so much damage in the name of Christianity. and i think we can pin down the main reasons here and help each other.
as far as churches go...good ones are hard to find, especially around here. the biggest problem i see is the lack of good sound biblical teaching. Proper soteriology, and the doctrines of Grace are lacking... desperately lacking. this is more than an issue of preference. these things are essential.
if you are in a church that is "you" focused... "your happiness, your prosperity, your gifts as opposed to "your sinfullness before a Holy God" then get out....if you prefer that stuff then you are not a child of God. you can never truly be born again until you see your depravity.
if you are in a church that is focused on gifts and miracle, get out and learn the true miracles of God.... how He regenerates a lost, horrible creature into a prize of grace.
if your focus is "doctrine, doctrine, doctrine, boy are we smart!" as opposed to reaching the lost...
please evaluate your walk and consider the great commission.
if your churches focus is "women must wear dresses...KJV only....certain beats of music are evil"
get out of that church.....reactionary theology is very dangerous (in my opinion)
please feel free to discuss things that have happened to you, and share how God got you through,
and if you need prayer...please indicate.